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4:08 pm 18th December 09
| Hammer
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I could never get on with Vista in any of it's versions and so stuck with XP until recently.
For want of something better to do I gave an old PC a bit of a brush up and bought the Win 7 Home Edition upgrade that is said to be everything that Vista should have been.
I found that a clean install is the only way to go as it does not use up disk space with obsolete old Win XP files.
Microsoft do supply both the 64 and 32 bit installation disks within the edition and I chose the 32 bit version although my CPU is 64. This was mainly due to a lack of software support for 64 bit software drivers up to press.
It installed without trouble and runs well but I do miss a lot of the XP simplicity. For instance, I am a big fan of Outlook Express which has been discontinued and do not like Windows Mail much, likewise Explorer 7 and Media player 10 are much mourned.
I knew that some software would be a problem and soon found Nero 8, Swishmax 2 and Sothink Quicker do not work at all. There are few if any upgrades for these apps to be had for free. I will not be upgrading those programmes because of the costs involved and have just installed them on my test server machine that will stay with XP. It is fortunate for me as I have an alternative solution but not so for many people, a distinct drawback. There is however a lot of stuff that will run like all the Office programmes, Photoshop, 6 onwards and most FTP client software seem to function ok.
On the plus side, I am impressed with a lot of 7 features, I am also using the built in Windows Firewall and have installed the free Microsoft Security Essentials software, both of which seem to work very well and are far less resource hungry than Zone Labs or AVG. It is early days but worth the change, up till now at least.
If anyone is considering upgrading their operating system I would suggest the first thing to do would be to download the Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor that you can get here.
http://www.microsoft.com/downl…..laylang=en
Run the advisor and it will check your system and devices for compatibility issues and so on. Once you know what you are faced with it will be easier to decide. If you do upgrade then I would suggest firstly back up everything you want to keep and do not just rely on the files and settings transfer system.
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7:37 pm 18th December 09
| Ciderman
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I happened to buy a new PC just as Vista came out. At first I had no end of trouble. I was getting downloads at the rate of 2 or 3 times a week and gradually everything came right. We've still got XP on a little Asus we use when we're travelling, but I must admit that I really need smaller fingers for that, convenient though it is!
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8:24 pm 18th December 09
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I am not a friend of Microsoft and if I could manage it better I would use Linux.
I have on my new Laptop Windows 7 and Internet Explorer.
On my old desk-top I use “Open office” and Mozilla FireFox.
I wish i was as clever as Hammer with computers I seem to just be able to plod along Pressing now and again the wrong button
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10:12 pm 18th December 09
| Hammer
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It is not a case of being clever Doreen I just like working on them and getting things to function if I can.
The different OS available is a good talking point though. There are Pros and Cons for all of them and really it is a matter of choice and what you are wanting to do with them at the end of the day.
Microsoft Windows is probably the most used, it does have the largest library of programs and applications. Some commercial apps work only with Windows and DirectX and I would guess that most hardware has drivers which are compatible with Windows. The downside is the vunerability to attack from the virus writers and others and it does need to be maintained to keep the 'brand new' efficiency.
Business IT folk will generally look for an inexpensive Windows based computer system that is easy to use and staff will not need the ability to use Linux
A Mac OS X on the other hand has a simple and intuitive interface with many advanced features and unlike its main competitor is not generally virus or malware prone.
There have been reports of a small number of trojans which have been known to take effect through applications running in Mac OS X, though they are almost always found on dubious web sites.
Apple boast the second largest selection of software and generally the system is reported to be stable and a high performer. There are a few cons, in that one is limited to Apple manufactured hardware. I have never tried but it may be difficult to do cross-platform network hardware sharing for a Mac OS X based computer in a Windows network or vice-versa. For example, a printer's Mac driver may not support cross-platform printing to a Windows-connected printer, and replacement drivers may or may not exist.
The Linux or other UNIX-based OS have a low number of viruses and other malware, similar to Mac OS X but that may alter if they take a bigger share of the user market and attract the attention of the authors of these nasty products. The systems themselves are usually free. There is a large amount of free and open source software equivalents to commercial Windows and Mac software.
It is said to be reliable with good performance and low requirements but I am also told that advanced use and installation of some software may require more detailed knowledge than is required for use of Windows and Mac. I also read that as yet many commercial programs do not support Linux but that may change.
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10:01 pm 7th January 10
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Hammer I wish you were here.
I couldn't get into my e-banking yesterday so I telephoned my bank and told them my story.
They said I should go into Cache and and clear it out.
Does that mean get rid of all the cookies and is this a good idea.?
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5:22 pm 9th January 10
| Hammer
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doreen said:
They said I should go into Cache and and clear it out.
Does that mean get rid of all the cookies and is this a good idea.?
It will not do any harm to clear them out Doreen and it is often the only way to purge the system and start again.
In any case Session cookies are only temporary and are erased when you close your Browser.
The Persistent or stored cookies will remain on your hard drive until they expire or you erase them yourself. This type of cookie recognises that you've visited a site before.
To use Online Banking Services, you will need to have cookies enabled on your computer.
They cannot create a virus or harvest any, what they will do is help keep your online transactions secure. This is done by storing your sign in details temporarily using a session cookie and enable you to access previously saved quotations. They should also automatically sign you out of the service after 10 minutes of inactivity for security purposes.
To make life easier you may choose to have your username saved on your computer so that you don't have to enter it every time you use a service, forums like this often do.
By selecting the option 'Remember my username', your username will be automatically entered every time you access the service. In order for the site to remember your username, they need to store it on your computer using a cookie.
It goes without saying that one must never use that facility on a public computer.
HTH
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7:36 am 28th January 10
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I've got XP on this old Laptop and Windows 7 on the new computer, which I use only as a typewriter as it is connected to the new printer. I was going to ask the question, why bring in a new system when the old one was working so well? Of course, I know the answer so won't bother to ask it.
All of the above posts are way beyond me: I understand nothing about Caches and cookies. I can't get young Steven to put XP on the new computer because of the new printer I bought which will only work on 64's so XP can't be installed (apparently). I wish I'd understood that before I bought it. Is there any adaptation I can get the lad to install on the new computer so that I can use XP but also connect the printer to it?
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11:17 am 28th January 10
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Lucy, the windows-7 is an improvement on Windows -home/office and Vista and much safer.
Spend an hour trying it out and reading the Handbook, sort of learn by doing.
It isn't more difficult to use than the old programs.
You could of course join both computers together with a ?-Router- …or a USB cable ask your “Help mate” or computer shop.
You can also find a lot of help when you ask Google a question.
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4:06 pm 28th January 10
| Hammer
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It is said to be impossible to network a printer with PC's that are using 64 and 32 bit Operating Systems. It is also said to be impossible to share a printer on machines running XP and certain versions of Win 7. However there are workarounds in both cases that do work and cost nothing but a little time.
Here is one way of solving the 64 and 32 bit issue that your young helper should easily be able to work through. I am assuming that it is the Win 7 64 bit machine that is the 'Host Machine' and the printer is attached to that. I will also assume that both machines are on the same network.
First of all make sure on the XP 32 bit (remote machine) that you have enabled 'Printer sharing' so you can access the device remotely on your network.
You will also need the correct 32 bit drivers installed on your XP machine which you can get from the printer manufacturers website.
Go to the 'ADD new printer' wizard via the Control Panel. Set up ' ADD LOCAL PRINTER ATTACHED TO THIS COMPUTER ' ( ignore the fact that it's on the remote machine ) and uncheck the 'automatically search for plug and play hardware' box.
You have to trick the remote printer into thinking it's actually attached to the 32 bit machine which is why you have to have the correct driver installed on the 32 bit machine.
So to continue, click 'NEXT'. Create new port => type of port LOCAL. Click ' Next '.
You will then see the next dialogue screen where you have to enter a port name. What you have to do here is enter : computername/sharename.
For example, if your remote computer ( XP ) is named lucynetwork and you've shared the printer as say Epson 1234 then you need to enter here. Lucynetwork\Epson1234
You should get a prompt (on the XP machine) of which driver you want to use, you will have already installed the drivers so just scroll down until you see the correct printer.
That's all there is to do. Print a ' test page ' and it works — your driver will just “Pass thru” the 64 bit machine.
A couple of things worth remembering, I doubt you will be able to to retrieve data back from the printer such as ink levels etc but the Host PC can still do that. You will also find that usually both PC's will have to be running in order to use the print facility.
I know this works in reverse as well — your Windows 7 can use a printer attached to a 32 bit machine. Of course the simple answer is to update the XP machine with a Win 7 upgrade, the Home Edition comes with both the 64 and 32 bit software.The only problem with that is a lot of stuff you have on your XP machine might not be compatible.
Hope this is of some use to your techie.
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5:30 pm 28th January 10
| Lucy
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thanks a lot for that Hammer. Of course, I'm using the Laptop but have copied and pasted the above information into a Word document and will now send it to myself via an email. This involves me pushing the 'Send' button and turning off this machine very quickly, otherwise it arrives on here. I shall put this info through Steven's door so that he can digest it before he comes over here to put XP on the desktop machine.
I really don't like Windows 7. I can't work out how to File stuff (well I can file it, but can't find it afterwards) and it isn't happy to accept my Excel Spreadsheets which I use for the household accounts. Admittedly I use an old version of Office (again, because I like it) and just can't get away with the latest version of Office.
I shall discuss it with Steven. I know that he won't be happy, as he thinks the 7 Version is brilliant.
thank you
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6:00 pm 28th January 10
| Hammer
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If you have a 64 bit printer you will have to use a 64 bit version of XP or dump the printer of course
I would persevere with 7 it is better and a lot faster than XP or Vista.
It has a different way of file sorting which needs using to appreciate but in all honesty I will not take my copy off this machine .
Mind you I still keep XP on my Server and will not lose that at any price and it was dear at the time I bought it.
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10:12 pm 1st February 10
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Well Hammer, it looks like I will have to persevere with the Windows 7. Here is what young Steven had to say:
…. i will put xp on for you but generally think its a bad idea as xp is coming to end no more microsoft support on it .. windows 7 is the way forward , but its entireally up to you
I'll just have to make time to mess around with it. I even got the book entitled “Windows 7 for Dummies” (or something like that) and it was unreadable! I shall bow to the higher knowledge of my superiors 
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5:46 pm 2nd February 10
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Persevere Lucy it will get a lot easier the more you use it, there are a lot of simplified online tutorials that might be of use but if something is stumping you just ask, I am sure we can help. For example a lot of folk find the ACP a problem on it's default settings but you can adjust it to suit yourself or even turn it off but not recommended ….just yet.
Of course you could always ask this bloke whoever he is

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9:12 am 3rd February 10
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Turning this topic a little (blame Hammer, not me), I don't know what's happening to me. We have a General Election coming up and for the first time in my adult life, I don't give a sh*t who gets in. We've had a Tory Government in all but name over the past 13 years so if we get another one, but with a different name this time, what difference will it make? I'm not one to say that I won't bother to vote, I shall vote for one of the 'minor' parties merely as a protest which I have been doing for the past few years
Now, back to Windows 7.
I use Excel and Word a lot. I'm used to both of these packages but Microsoft have put alsorts of new symbols on the Toolbar and removed or reshaped them to such an extent that I don't know what I'm doing. Filing!!! Don't ask me about the Filing system. I've had lots of letters to send recently which I dutifully file as requested …. but goodness knows where they go to.
Here's an example of what I mentioned previously “if it ain't broke, don't fix it”. I applauded this attitude elsewhere on this Forum, but this seems to be not just a tinkering for improvement, but a wholesale decimation of a good product just in order to make some more money.
However … I applaud Bill Gates' charitable endeavours and wish there were more like him. It's just a shame that he's using my money but giving me an inferior product to do his good work with.
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